Before news broke that Ari Shaffir’s planned comedy special taping had been canceled, but after Shaffir had received plenty of blowback for his social media trolling about Kobe Bryant’s death, his comedy pals Tom Segura and Bert Kreischer talked about trying to put their friend’s bad public behavior into context.

They don’t defend his humor. But they do still call him a friend.

Even if Bert’s own kids know Ari once drugged their dad.